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Bill Densmore: /* Who creates products? */

2008-12-14T03:01:52Z

Who creates products?

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	The IVP is trapped among all three. So much is already out there, it's just a matter of getting down to work. If it's a product you need to begin defining it -- you need end ~~uers~~ personas, stakeholder analysis and a map of related technologies and concepts in the market. If it's product marketing you need to map all the required technologies and think about how you build a stack to meet the need, and if ~~its~~ a big vision, then you need to define enough to bring people onboard.		The IVP is trapped among all three. So much is already out there, it's just a matter of getting down to work. If it's a product you need to begin defining it -- you need end user personas, stakeholder analysis and a map of related technologies and concepts in the market. If it's product marketing you need to map all the required technologies and think about how you build a stack to meet the need, and if it's a big vision, then you need to define enough to bring people onboard.

	Next step would be a strawman proposal for what this is based on exisiting feedback. That's what should be used to keep the conversation going.		Next step would be a strawman proposal for what this is based on exisiting feedback. That's what should be used to keep the conversation going.

Bill Densmore: /* Tech development or trade initiative? */

2008-12-14T03:00:54Z

Tech development or trade initiative?

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	For the IVP there seems to be a fundamental decision made to move forward. Is IVP a:		For the IVP there seems to be a fundamental decision made to move forward. Is IVP:
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	*A technology development initative or <br>		*A technology development initative or <br>

Bill Densmore: /* Who creates products? */

2008-12-09T05:51:59Z

Who creates products?

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	Products are usually created by three types of folks:		Products are usually created by three types of folks:
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	1. The visionary entrepreneur: someone has great vision about where the market is headed and develops a product to meet the market down the road.		1. The visionary entrepreneur: someone has great vision about where the market is headed and develops a product to meet the market down the road.<br>

	2. The builder: the develops a product idea and is clear about what they want to build and test the market, refines the vision and push it forward and markets it like hell to get it adopted. This too me is like the journalist who writes stories because they want to do it, and hopes that someone cares.		2. The builder: the develops a product idea and is clear about what they want to build and test the market, refines the vision and push it forward and markets it like hell to get it adopted. This too me is like the journalist who writes stories because they want to do it, and hopes that someone cares.<br>

	3 The product marketer: someone sees a clear market need and develops a product to meet that need. Often they work with pure technology developed by entrepreneurs and shape that technology of a market. This is the packaging of a specific technology to a market need.		3 The product marketer: someone sees a clear market need and develops a product to meet that need. Often they work with pure technology developed by entrepreneurs and shape that technology of a market. This is the packaging of a specific technology to a market need.

Bill Densmore: /* Who creates products? */

2008-12-09T05:51:32Z

Who creates products?

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	Products are usually created by three types of folks:		Products are usually created by three types of folks:
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			1. The visionary entrepreneur: someone has great vision about where the market is headed and develops a product to meet the market down the road.

	# The ~~visionary entrepreneur~~: ~~someone has great vision about where~~ the ~~market is headed and~~ develops a product to ~~meet~~ the market ~~down~~ the ~~road~~.		2. The builder: the develops a product idea and is clear about what they want to build and test the market, refines the vision and push it forward and markets it like hell to get it adopted. This too me is like the journalist who writes stories because they want to do it, and hopes that someone cares.

	# The builder: the develops a product idea and is clear about what they want to build and test the market, refines the vision and push it forward and markets it like hell to get it adopted. This too me is like the journalist who writes stories because they want to do it, and hopes that someone cares.		3 The product marketer: someone sees a clear market need and develops a product to meet that need. Often they work with pure technology developed by entrepreneurs and shape that technology of a market. This is the packaging of a specific technology to a market need.
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	# The product marketer: someone sees a clear market need and develops a product to meet that need. Often they work with pure technology developed by entrepreneurs and shape that technology of a market. This is the packaging of a specific technology to a market need.
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	The IVP is trapped among all three. So much is already out there, it's just a matter of getting down to work. If it's a product you need to begin defining it -- you need end uers personas, stakeholder analysis and a map of related technologies and concepts in the market. If it's product marketing you need to map all the required technologies and think about how you build a stack to meet the need, and if its a big vision, then you need to define enough to bring people onboard.		The IVP is trapped among all three. So much is already out there, it's just a matter of getting down to work. If it's a product you need to begin defining it -- you need end uers personas, stakeholder analysis and a map of related technologies and concepts in the market. If it's product marketing you need to map all the required technologies and think about how you build a stack to meet the need, and if its a big vision, then you need to define enough to bring people onboard.

Bill Densmore: /* Tech development or trade initiative? */

2008-12-09T05:50:51Z

Tech development or trade initiative?

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	For the IVP there seems to be a fundamental decision made to move forward. Is IVP a:		For the IVP there seems to be a fundamental decision made to move forward. Is IVP a:
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			*A technology development initative or <br>

	~~#A technology development initative or <br>~~		*A trade initiative that brings together constituents to consider developing a solution and defines standards, values and puts a working group in place to consider how to "get media companies" requirements into a larger product development conversation.<br>
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	#A trade initiative that brings together constituents to consider developing a solution and defines standards, values and puts a working group in place to consider how to "get media companies" requirements into a larger product development conversation.<br>

	If it's the later, then there are best practices from the Bluetooth Consortium, Online News Association, Online Publishers Association and the Internet Advertising Bureau to consider. These require study and recommendation for format.		If it's the later, then there are best practices from the Bluetooth Consortium, Online News Association, Online Publishers Association and the Internet Advertising Bureau to consider. These require study and recommendation for format.

			If it's the former, then commit to a methodology, write a market and product requirement and get real about where you are in the market.
	If it's the former commit to a methodology, write a market and product requirement and get real about where you are in the market.

	====Who creates products?====		====Who creates products?====

Bill Densmore: /* Who creates products? */

2008-12-09T05:49:55Z

Who creates products?

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	Products are usually created by three types of folks:		Products are usually created by three types of folks:

	#The visionary entrepreneur: someone has great vision about where the market is headed and develops a product to meet the market down the road.		# The visionary entrepreneur: someone has great vision about where the market is headed and develops a product to meet the market down the road.

	#The builder: the develops a product idea and is clear about what they want to build and test the market, refines the vision and push it forward and markets it like hell to get it adopted. This too me is like the journalist who writes stories because they want to do it, and hopes that someone cares.		# The builder: the develops a product idea and is clear about what they want to build and test the market, refines the vision and push it forward and markets it like hell to get it adopted. This too me is like the journalist who writes stories because they want to do it, and hopes that someone cares.

	#The product marketer: someone sees a clear market need and develops a product to meet that need. Often they work with pure technology developed by entrepreneurs and shape that technology of a market. This is the packaging of a specific technology to a market need.		# The product marketer: someone sees a clear market need and develops a product to meet that need. Often they work with pure technology developed by entrepreneurs and shape that technology of a market. This is the packaging of a specific technology to a market need.
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Bill Densmore: /* The current question */

2008-12-09T05:49:25Z

The current question

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	*Systems will be delivered to deliver that value back to the consumer, the question for IVP is IF those media companies we now associate with journalism will have a role in delivering that service and also getting their piece of the pie.		*Systems will be delivered to deliver that value back to the consumer, the question for IVP is IF those media companies we now associate with journalism will have a role in delivering that service and also getting their piece of the pie.

	====Tech development or trade initiative?		====Tech development or trade initiative?====

	For the IVP there seems to be a fundamental decision made to move forward. Is IVP a:		For the IVP there seems to be a fundamental decision made to move forward. Is IVP a:

Bill Densmore: /* Raligning the loss of value on two sides */

2008-12-09T05:49:02Z

Raligning the loss of value on two sides

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	I think that information valet needs a better lead, one that convey's a clear, crisp, concise and compelling meaning that moves the project forward. I have taken two things away as compelling:		I think that information valet needs a better lead, one that convey's a clear, crisp, concise and compelling meaning that moves the project forward. I have taken two things away as compelling:

			1. It would be helpful for individuals to have a single place to manage their portfolio of passwords and ID's. A dashboard for managing personal information and perhaps reputation.<br>

	~~#It would be helpful for individuals to have a single place to manage their portfolio of passwords and ID's~~. ~~A dashboard for managing personal information and perhaps reputation.~~		2. That consumers/users deserve a benefit from sharing personal information and that overtime, as the network scales folks will find ways to get more and more value back for participation.

	#That consumers/users deserve a benefit from sharing personal information and that overtime, as the network scales folks will find ways to get more and more value back for participation.

	In short I summarized it like this:		In short I summarized it like this:

Bill Densmore: /* Raligning the loss of value on two sides */

2008-12-09T05:48:05Z

Raligning the loss of value on two sides

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-OSDER: (pharaphrasing) The IVP "needs a better lead paragraph." Consumers are losing personal information without compensation. Publishers are losing content without compensation. Each is profiting from the other. The IVP proposes a method for exchanging these values, to answer the consumer's inclination to say, "I'd like my piece of the pie," and the information service company's need to get paid.
+OSDER: http://www.osdergroup.com
-Start with definitions. For example, what does identity mean? Get to some specifics for working groups. With the definitions, find the products already out there that can support the system. Build the market map. What's unique on every level of the stack? Create case studies about what this connective tissue would join together. What is the ecosystem going to look like.
+I think that information valet needs a better lead, one that convey's a clear, crisp, concise  and compelling meaning that moves the project forward. I have taken two things away as compelling:
 ====Two of three values we understand====

Bill Densmore at 07:24, 7 December 2008

2008-12-07T07:24:43Z

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	JEFF VANDERCLUTE: What are control checks on chaos? Are we willing to entertain a certain amount of chaos?		JEFF VANDERCLUTE: What are control checks on chaos? Are we willing to entertain a certain amount of chaos?
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	<h4>Understanding and conveying the value to stakeholders and committing to a development methodology are keys to launching the Information Valet Project, consultant Elizabeth Osder told participants in "Blueprinting the Information Valet Economy." Osder was an informal kick-off commentator on Thurs., Dec. 4, 2008, at the Donald W. Reynolds Journalism Institute at the Missouri School of Journalism.</4>		<h4>Understanding and conveying the value to stakeholders and committing to a development methodology are keys to launching the Information Valet Project, consultant Elizabeth Osder told participants in "Blueprinting the Information Valet Economy." Osder was an informal kick-off commentator on Thurs., Dec. 4, 2008, at the Donald W. Reynolds Journalism Institute at the Missouri School of Journalism.</h4>
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	====Raligning the loss of value on two sides====		====Raligning the loss of value on two sides====