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Bill Densmore at 00:39, 10 January 2010

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	<big>These are Bill Densmore's notes for a breakout session at Journalism that Matters-Pacific Northwest.</big>		<big>These are Bill Densmore's notes for a breakout session at Journalism that Matters-Pacific Northwest.</big>

			==Discussion notes (thanks to Chaitra Sriram)==

			Two corporate forms, binary.
			Dictated by wall street: have to meet investor needs
			Non-profits: entirely mission based: have to cover costs, but nothing more.

			Have to incorporate social need into a corporate form.
			AP works like a co-op. But that doesn't work for everyone. Requires that the services they provide and the owners of the company have a very close relationship
			Agricultural co-ops and credit unions, and banks are good examples.

			In the case of a company without a homogenous owner base but wants to be a co-op. What to do?
			L3c is for-profit. In the charter, it must say that its purpose is to perform some social good. Must put profits second and social good first. Doesn't mean you can't make a profit, only that you have to have social good. Ownership to the readers and employees.

			Jennifer Towery and Robert Lang = L3c
			Lang: “Social benefit for profit.”
			L3C = Low Profit Limited Liability Company with binding rules mandating social good.
			Lang: Trying to get a federal law that will put PRIs on the same footing as non-profits

			Jennifer Towery trying to accuire the newspaper from the Gate corporation to make it into an L3C.
			Journalism has to matter more than making a profit.
			If they were an L3c, they can accept PRIs from people that will offset other risks. Get the community to invest in the paper under the L3c business model in order to give it better quality of Journalism (depth of story)

			Getting something like this in WA?

			Converting other industries into L3c?
			americansforcommunitydevelopment.org

			Densmore: Why do this?
			Lang: Its fun. Its a challenge to do something that is good for the people in a way that is profitable.
			Towery: Make a difference in journalism. You don't go into it to get rich. Find a good business model to make journalism about making a difference in the community

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			Jim McGinley
			Ashoka: social financial enrepeneurs. Social businesses: Dannon yogurt. Production and delivery to Bangaladesh. Approach is a social business idea. There will be a profit made, but won't be a return on investment.
			L3C: it takes a while to get it through the legislature. It is fairly similar to a co-op. But you can see a social and business model coming together.

			…................................................

			L3C ownership may make it harder to sell to an entity that would profit maximize. Different tax structures involved with the sale? It may explain why a family owned newspaper might not want to go this route.
			Blethen Corp. owns 55% of Seattle Times stock. This leads to the problem that the children may not have the same philanthropic interest in the business as the parents may have.

			L3C is just like an LLC in that there are different ways of organizing it.
			Community foundation can make a grant that would work like a loan and they can get a market rate of return. Or they can get stock and get on the board of the company.

			Bill Richards: Is an L3C an option for Chapter 1 or Chapter 11 bankruptcy for a paper?
			Increases likelihood of getting a better return if the paper becomes an L3C.
			Foundations are wary of doing PRIs in an L3C because they are not sure about how the IRS will respond.
			IRS has to make decision that newspaper is a community resource in order to make it an L3C.

			Community can now get involved in the paper not only by buying it but by investing in it. This allows communities to get involved in the quality of local reporting, and demand that it be for the public good instead of purely being for profit.

			Bill Densmore: Network subscriptions as a way to sustain journalism. How to determine ownership of that networking company? Don't want a major corp. like Microsoft or Google or even the government. This would fit for having an L3C for ownership. Allows the organization to go to various foundations and ask for money in order to create that networking site. Any profits made would be invested in journalism


	==Background links==		==Background links==

Bill Densmore at 22:49, 9 January 2010

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	Now law in Illinois:		Now law in Illinois:
	*http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/chi-mon-minding-l3c-aug10,0,5321379.column		*http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/chi-mon-minding-l3c-aug10,0,5321379.column

			A 2005 study of ownership forms:
			*http://www.mediagiraffe.org/node/230

Bill Densmore at 22:27, 9 January 2010

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	Americans for Community Development<br>		Americans for Community Development<br>
			L3C ADvisors Inc.<br>
	P.O. Box 236<br>		P.O. Box 236<br>
	Granite Springs, New York 10527<br>		Granite Springs, New York 10527<br>

Bill Densmore at 22:25, 9 January 2010

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	Robert Lang: Originator of the L3C idea:		Robert Lang: Originator of the L3C idea:
	*http://~~newshare~~.~~typepad~~.~~com~~/~~mgpaudio~~/~~2009~~/09/~~audio-the~~-l3c~~----a-new-lease-for-newspapers~~.~~html~~		*http://www.rjionline.org/projects/densmore/stories/info-valet/stories/l3c/index.php

	Home page for his AmericansForCommunityDevelopment.org:		Home page for his AmericansForCommunityDevelopment.org:

Bill Densmore at 22:23, 9 January 2010

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 Jim Barnett talking about the L3C on his blog:
 *http://journalismnonprofit.blogspot.com/2009/08/whither-l3c.html
 VIDEO: Building a corporation with a social mission:
 *http://newshare.typepad.com/newshare/2009/04/building-a-profitmaking-company-with-a-social-mission.html
 <ul><ul>Chris Miller, community outreach coordinator of the Skandalaris Center for Entrepreneurial Studies at Washington University in St. Louis, describes the form, which some people are saying might be a future structure for newspapers. Miller is at 314-935-6906 (clmiller@wustl.edu </ul></ul>

Bill Densmore at 22:05, 9 January 2010

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	==Background links==		==Background links==

			The WikiPedia page on L3C's:
			*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_liability_company

	A list of the key features of the L3C:		A list of the key features of the L3C:

Bill Densmore: /* Background links */

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	Home page for his ~~AmericansForCommunityAction~~.org:		Home page for his AmericansForCommunityDevelopment.org:
	*http://www.~~americansforcommunityaction~~.org		*http://www.americansforcommunitydevelopment.org/

	Jim Barnett talking about the L3C on his blog:		Jim Barnett talking about the L3C on his blog:

69.91.139.125 at 22:00, 9 January 2010

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	Robert Lang: Originator of the L3C idea:		Robert Lang: Originator of the L3C idea:
	*http://newshare.typepad.com/mgpaudio/2009/09/audio-the-l3c----a-new-lease-for-newspapers.html		*http://newshare.typepad.com/mgpaudio/2009/09/audio-the-l3c----a-new-lease-for-newspapers.html

			Home page for his AmericansForCommunityAction.org:
			*http://www.americansforcommunityaction.org

	Jim Barnett talking about the L3C on his blog:		Jim Barnett talking about the L3C on his blog:

Bill Densmore: New page: =The L3C: Can the corporation learn to achieve profits and social purpose?= These are Bill Densmore's notes for a breakout session at Journalism that Matters-Pacific Northwest. ...

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New page: =The L3C: Can the corporation learn to achieve profits and social purpose?= <big>These are Bill Densmore's notes for a breakout session at Journalism that Matters-Pacific Northwest.</big> ...

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=The L3C: Can the corporation learn to achieve profits and social purpose?=
<big>These are Bill Densmore's notes for a breakout session at Journalism that Matters-Pacific Northwest.</big>

==Background links==

A list of the key features of the L3C:
*http://newshare.com/wiki/index.php/L3c-vermont-background

Robert Lang: Originator of the L3C idea:
*http://newshare.typepad.com/mgpaudio/2009/09/audio-the-l3c----a-new-lease-for-newspapers.html

Jim Barnett talking about the L3C on his blog:
*http://journalismnonprofit.blogspot.com/2009/08/whither-l3c.html

VIDEO: Building a corporation with a social mission:
*http://newshare.typepad.com/newshare/2009/04/building-a-profitmaking-company-with-a-social-mission.html
<ul><ul>Chris Miller, community outreach coordinator of the Skandalaris Center for Entrepreneurial Studies at Washington University in St. Louis, describes the form, which some people are saying might be a future structure for newspapers. Miller is at 314-935-6906 (clmiller@wustl.edu </ul></ul>