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		<title>Bill Densmore at 17:01, 29 October 2009</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:01, 29 October 2009&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Martin Langveld, of [http://www.circlabs.com CircLabs] comments:  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Martin Langveld, of [http://www.circlabs.com CircLabs] comments:  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&quot;The real paywall is going up around print with more papers upping single copy and subscription rates, plus cutting their perennial discounting of subscriptions. Also the metros have upped geographical tiers - the Globe &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;up &lt;/del&gt;here went from 2.50 to 4.00 in the summer.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&quot;The real paywall is going up around print with more papers upping single copy and subscription rates, plus cutting their perennial discounting of subscriptions. Also the metros have upped geographical tiers - the Globe &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;in Brattleboro, Vt. &lt;/ins&gt;here went from &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;$&lt;/ins&gt;2.50 to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;$&lt;/ins&gt;4.00 &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;on Sunday &lt;/ins&gt;in the summer.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Which is all fine - print is now a niche, and people who want it should pay for their preference. This means any &amp;quot;protect print by charging online&amp;quot; strategy is bogus; online should never have a &amp;quot;paywall&amp;quot;.  The only online pricing ideas that make sense are (a) charges for truly unique niche content, and (b) variable pricing plans like Albert Sun&amp;#039;s suggestion, in which there&amp;#039;s a range of premium-priced packages with enhanced access and content features (while the vast majority of content remains free to the vast majority of readers).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Which is all fine - print is now a niche, and people who want it should pay for their preference. This means any &amp;quot;protect print by charging online&amp;quot; strategy is bogus; online should never have a &amp;quot;paywall&amp;quot;.  The only online pricing ideas that make sense are (a) charges for truly unique niche content, and (b) variable pricing plans like Albert Sun&amp;#039;s suggestion, in which there&amp;#039;s a range of premium-priced packages with enhanced access and content features (while the vast majority of content remains free to the vast majority of readers).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;The other things are: (a) online news needs reinvention in a way that vastly improves engagement (time spent), and (b) news/information publishers have the oppty to increase their ad rates in a major way through preference-oriented advertising, which is where Circulate comes in, of course.&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;The other things are: (a) online news needs reinvention in a way that vastly improves engagement (time spent), and (b) news/information publishers have the oppty to increase their ad rates in a major way through preference-oriented advertising, which is where Circulate comes in, of course.&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Bill Densmore</name></author>
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		<title>Bill Densmore: New page: Martin Langveld, of [http://www.circlabs.com CircLabs] comments:   &quot;The real paywall is going up around print with more papers upping single copy and subscription rates, plus cutting their...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Martin Langveld, of [http://www.circlabs.com CircLabs] comments:   &amp;quot;The real paywall is going up around print with more papers upping single copy and subscription rates, plus cutting their...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Martin Langveld, of [http://www.circlabs.com CircLabs] comments: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The real paywall is going up around print with more papers upping single copy and subscription rates, plus cutting their perennial discounting of subscriptions. Also the metros have upped geographical tiers - the Globe up here went from 2.50 to 4.00 in the summer.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Which is all fine - print is now a niche, and people who want it should pay for their preference. This means any &amp;quot;protect print by charging online&amp;quot; strategy is bogus; online should never have a &amp;quot;paywall&amp;quot;.  The only online pricing ideas that make sense are (a) charges for truly unique niche content, and (b) variable pricing plans like Albert Sun&amp;#039;s suggestion, in which there&amp;#039;s a range of premium-priced packages with enhanced access and content features (while the vast majority of content remains free to the vast majority of readers).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The other things are: (a) online news needs reinvention in a way that vastly improves engagement (time spent), and (b) news/information publishers have the oppty to increase their ad rates in a major way through preference-oriented advertising, which is where Circulate comes in, of course.&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bill Densmore</name></author>
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